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Zasso Nouka wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:52 am

Have you seen the prices they charge for JAS certification ? Eye wateringly expensive :eek:. I'm mean I'd like to get it but it is quite steep.
Yea I looked into what it would take and the cost and at this point can't see how it would benefit me right now

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Shizuman wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:33 am
Zasso Nouka wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:52 am

Have you seen the prices they charge for JAS certification ? Eye wateringly expensive :eek:. I'm mean I'd like to get it but it is quite steep.
Yea I looked into what it would take and the cost and at this point can't see how it would benefit me right now
Maybe this is something to look into for the future, however my wife just pointed out that there are certain chemical fertilizers you are allowed to use with JAS, so then that's not really Organic is it?? Bit weird.

How much does it cost anyway for the membership?
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Zasso Nouka wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:52 am
So long as you give them plenty of fertiliser, cukes are really hungry plants, they might not be too different from non organic growers. Not sure how long your soil was unused for but ours took a few years to become really good after being abandoned for so long, that will also have an influence on how things grow on your land.
A few years by the looks of it, also we changed the layout from a 3 tier field into just one large field so I don't know if that would have an impact on the soil with the amount of digging and such we did.
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Shizuman wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:33 am
Yea I looked into what it would take and the cost and at this point can't see how it would benefit me right now
I think the only advantage it confers is you are legally allowed to say your produce is organic, quite a steep price for that.
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Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:22 am
Maybe this is something to look into for the future, however my wife just pointed out that there are certain chemical fertilizers you are allowed to use with JAS, so then that's not really Organic is it?? Bit weird.
You are also allowed to use pesticides between crops and completely sterilise the soil between crops with steam sterilisers :doh:. That one was to allow big agricultural companies that specialise in growing just one crop over and over in the same place instead of practicing crops rotation to be able to get JAS certification
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Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:22 am
How much does it cost anyway for the membership?
Can't remember exactly but think it was between 100,000 - 200,000円 for the initial inspection and then the yearly fee was pretty steep too.
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Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:25 am
A few years by the looks of it, also we changed the layout from a 3 tier field into just one large field so I don't know if that would have an impact on the soil with the amount of digging and such we did.
That will have an effect but you the soil should recover within a year or two and continue to get better from then on.

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Im glad you remembered the price Zassou i forgot!
I do remember however that you have to pay for the inspectors travel and a certain part of their accommodation if its required

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Zasso Nouka wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:26 am
Can't remember exactly but think it was between 100,000 - 200,000円 for the initial inspection and then the yearly fee was pretty steep too.
Jeez, I think I'll pass on the whole JAS certification.
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Shizuman wrote:
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Im glad you remembered the price Zassou i forgot!
I do remember however that you have to pay for the inspectors travel and a certain part of their accommodation if its required
Wow really? That's crazy considering the price mentioned above for the inspection.
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Shizuman wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:54 am
Im glad you remembered the price Zassou i forgot!
I do remember however that you have to pay for the inspectors travel and a certain part of their accommodation if its required
Your absolutely right, I'd completely forgotten about having to pay their travel expenses and lodging :doh:. It's almost like a scam when you consider that and some of the practices allowed which is probably why so few small scale organic farmers go for it. Having said all that it does open some doors for you selling at higher end places but it does feel like it's geared towards large companies rather than small producers.

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Bamboo clearing.

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Thought I would show the final results after digging a water trench around and in the middle along with the electric fence just finished the other day.
This and the polytunnel (for whatever we fancy and the cucumber seedlings) I also just finished is starting to make our place look like an actual farm now.

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Just wish I managed to get this stuff done a bit earlier.

Anyway, Job completed.
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Bamboo clearing.

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Looks great. Lovely spot you have there.