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Sorry I couldnt find a thread on these so I thought I's post here.
I have around a 1000 tsubo of land, mostly forest, and the better half is interested in keeping some goats. Now i know this really means that I'm looking after the goats if we do buy, but I'm looking for a few pointers.
I've been quoted 100,000 yen for a pair of dwarf goats (M+F 6months), is this reasonable?
I have a lots of grass and roughage available but for winter what kind of meal do they eat? Is it expensive?
Do I have to find specialist vets, if the little guys arent too well?
There are more questions but I think for now these are my main worries.
Cheers for any advice.
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MickByrnes1969 wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 1:52 pm
Sorry I couldnt find a thread on these so I thought I's post here.
I have around a 1000 tsubo of land, mostly forest, and the better half is interested in keeping some goats. Now i know this really means that I'm looking after the goats if we do buy, but I'm looking for a few pointers.
I've been quoted 100,000 yen for a pair of dwarf goats (M+F 6months), is this reasonable?
I have a lots of grass and roughage available but for winter what kind of meal do they eat? Is it expensive?
Do I have to find specialist vets, if the little guys arent too well?
There are more questions but I think for now these are my main worries.
Cheers for any advice.
M
Dont know about the going rate for goats in Japan but 1000 dollar for 2 goats is way over priced in my view. the sheep/goats i bought where about 120 dollat ish a head. ( these were regidtered breeds)

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There are tons of goats for free ..
People who have goats for milk always need to get rid of the extra boys, and people who bought them because they thought they were cute and now theyre not.. also want to get rid of them.
Look on Jimoty
or yagibits (they have great info on goats and feed etc too)
Pet no Uchi
Facebook Goat group (japan)
or almost any rehome site.
or just google

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Wow, thank you so much guys, you have given me more than enough information to keep me busy for a long while. The facebook page looks great and the yagibits has plenty to explore. :D
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I also have goats, they're so great. Here's their instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gethpari/
MickByrnes1969 wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 1:52 pm
I've been quoted 100,000 yen for a pair of dwarf goats (M+F 6months), is this reasonable?
Yes, that seems to be about the going rate to purchase goats. You may be able to get them for less or free if someone has got some they want to get rid of. We drove like 2 hours to get ours from a place in Yamanashi-ken we found on the internet, then once we had the goats and got plugged into the local goat community we discovered that there were loads closer to us.
MickByrnes1969 wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 1:52 pm
I have a lots of grass and roughage available but for winter what kind of meal do they eat? Is it expensive?
We give ours hay, either oats hay or timothy. Lately just timothy. Our 2 fully-grown goats get through about a bail every 2 weeks, which costs between 2000 and 3000 yen depending on global hay geopolitics. We get it from the agricultural cooperative (we're in Tochigi-ken so it's 酪農とちぎ農業協同組合), they have a massive storehouse with a vast stack of hay that the dairy farmers come to pick up by the truckload, and we sheepishly show up in our little 1982 k-truck and ask for 3 bails. It's a bit customer-unfriendly, we have to call ahead and they're only open on specific days of the week. We also give them some hay (but less) in the summer, they seem to like the variety. In winter we still give them a little bit of tree/bush from the mountains behind the house, but they're mostly living on the hay.

Additionally we give them alfalfa pellets just a little handful at a time, kind of as a treat to encourage compliance.
MickByrnes1969 wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2024 1:52 pm
Do I have to find specialist vets, if the little guys arent too well?
Any agricultural vet should be able to do it. The agricultural vets seem to be laughably cheap compared to a normal pet vet. They come to you rather than you going to them. When we got the goats castrated the local agricultural vet was supposed to do it, but his kids run the pet vet and they wouldn't let him have the surgery room because they needed it for pets which are more lucrative. Eventually we took them to another vet a bit of a drive away.

PS Considerations for the gender of the goats: If you want milk or cheese, you'll need a female goat and she'll need to keep getting pregnant, in which case she'll have kids, which increases the scale of your problem. If you have a female goat and she's not getting enough sex she will get incredibly noisy. If you have an uncastrated male goat he will be noisy and smash his way out of anything you try to contain him with in search for a lady goat, and give off a very pungent smell a lot like goat cheese. So the way to have pet goats and a (reasonably) quiet life without too much disturbance to the neighbours is to get male goats and castrate them when they're young (but not too young as it causes medical issues apparently).

HTH, happy to answer any other questions if the links gonbechan provided don't cover anything.

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Thanks so much, more very useful information.
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